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As some of you may know I'm looking to buy a VXR (E) in addition to my 1.4T LE (E) and have been waiting to see one in the flesh. Well a local dealer had a new VXR in today so I've had a good nosey at it although didn't test drive it today as it was absolutely P'ing down. I will be going back on a dry day for a test drive.

It did look good in Flash Blue which is a much darker blue than Arden. It also had the carbon pack fitted which is the grill bar and mirror housings but oddly not the intake on the bonnet. The intake now seems quite daft as it is blanked off as far as I could tell so serves no purpose other than for looks. The part leather seats were gorgeous! The colour insert in the dash was actually chrome effect plastic which to me was a bit cheap looking. Would be better with a bit of proper polished alloy in there.

A big concern for me was that the body looks pretty much like an LE, no extra grills in the bodywork (other than the fake bonnet one), the same mirrors as the LE rather than the stylish VXR D ones. Other than the twin exhausts and different wheels it was difficult to distinquish from an LE or VX-Line.

The main reason I haven't placed an order yet is threefold 1) I can't decide on a colour and 2) I can't decide on whether to get the performance pack or not and 3) I'm tempted to get a 2nd hand 'berg in Chilli Orange.

I'm not keen on any of the VXR (E) colours really because to me the 3 door E looks best in bright colours that show off its shape but the very limited colours currently available on the VXR are mostly darker shadess other than red, white and lime green which are all very common already on standard E's. If I'm paying out so much (£20K) for a supposedly 'top of the range' performance version of the E, I want one in a distinctive and unique colour. Flash blue is the only colour unique to the VXR and it is too dark for me.

Then there is the issue with the performance pack (PP) which includes lower suspension. The standard VXR actually has more ground clearance than my LE as the exhaust doesn't hang down as low as the one on the LE so the ramp breakover angle onto my drive is fine. However with the PP the VXR is lower and will require a major landscaping job on the drive to be able to get it on. The PP is also £2400 extra! However to my mind the PP makes the car, without it the VXR is little different to drive to the 1.4T LE other than power? The LE already has the re-calibrated better weighted steering and already has the lower ride height and slightly firmer springs. I think the VXR needs the PP with its decent adjustable shocks and LSD in order to 'feel' significantly different to the LE.

Anyway, I'm going to wait a few months before ordering as Vauxhall doesn't seem very organised with the VXR yet. I knew more about the VXR demo car than the dealer including pointing out that it was fitted with carbon pack and that it didn't have the PP. Comes to something when the customer has to advise the dealer of what car they have actually got as a demonstrator! However the worst thing is that none of the brochures or price lists are correct.

I have also seen that Opel have just introduced a new colour 'Mandarin Orange' to the VXR in Germany and I absolutely love it!! I'm hoping that Vauxhall with introduce this colour to the VXR here :)

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Quite frustrated really, considering the price of the VXR and the type of people who would be buying them, the dealer network doesn't seem to be geared up to sell it and Vauxhall seems to have made a big mistake over the poor choice of colours. Considering the rest of the bodywork is near identical to the LE it really needs some unique and eye catching colours to stand out from all the cheaper LE's running around.
 

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Seems rather similar to my first visit to the dealer back in February! I've been waiting to see this topic from you! :lol: I reckon you'll be sold once you've had a drive! Now you can understand my lack of decision a bit better too!
 

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LeachiE said:
Seems rather similar to my first visit to the dealer back in February! I've been waiting to see this topic from you! :lol: I reckon you'll be sold once you've had a drive! Now you can understand my lack of decision a bit better too!
I will report back once I've had a test drive. :)
 

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That mandarin orange looks awesome! Didn't there used to be a Focus with that colour?
 

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Yes, a bit darker I think but equally eye catching. :)
 

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Thanks joeboy but no good to me. I don't qualify for partners discount and the mileage is too low for me.

I would be looking at 10-15K mileage and without partners discount I'll probably looking at £250 a month PCP.

We looked into the partners discount when we bought Dafny back in January but nobody I know works for a Vauxhall Partner company. I work for a small specialist IT company, my wife is a housewife and neither my wife nor I have any real family. Our youngest kids are still at school and our eldest is a model. So can't think of a way to qualify for the partners scheme :-(
 

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The issue I have with 20k on a VXR is the fact that you can get a better new Merc/BMW/Audi for that price.
 

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Like what? A base A-class is about 20k, are you going to be able to find any Merc, BMW or Audi new which is as much fun as VXR or as distinctive anyway for even close to 20k?

I don't like Mercs or BMs really anyway, sure you could get a really good 2nd hand A4 for 20k and itd be a properly nice car but its not really a wee pocket rocket is it.

Mud, I like the idea of a Chilli Orange Burg Corsa D, as I agree whilst the E VXR is a nice looking car its not lairy enough looking for the sporty model, only real issue for me would be, other than the seats/steering wheel I think the D interior is horrid. Looks good on the outside, sounds good,is fast enough, handles well enough, good brakes, the Recaro shell back seats are the business but that dash/interior :(
 

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The issue I have with 20k on a VXR is the fact that you can get a better new Merc/BMW/Audi for that price.
Uh? what BMW, Merc or Audi can you get brand new with the same spec and performance for £20K?

My friend has a One Series (in fact several of my work colleagues have them too) and the quick ones to rival a VXR are £30K+ and I'm pretty sure the Audi and Merc equivalents are also £30K+ by the time you've added all the options on that the VXR has such as the bling alloys, leather racing seats, performance packs etc. The Honda Type R is also about £30K now I believe too?

Other than the Fiesta ST there is nothing much about with equal performance at the price of the Corsa VXR unless you consider a French/Italian car which I won't. I also find the Germanic cars to be utterly boring to look at, not as reliable as they would have you believe and are simply not worth the premium for me. I like a vehicle to have some personality and character which is why I chose a Corsa E in the first place instead of a Polo or a Fabia. I test drove a Fiesta and didn't like that at all. I also opted for a new Corsa over a second hand One Series or Golf because I wanted a new car. The same applies to the reasoning behind the VXR. I have grown to like the Corsa E very much and I just want a faster version. :)

Hendy - yeah, very tempted with 2nd hand berg but as you say the interior is now dated compared to the E so I guess I'm sort of stuck with getting a new one. I think I'm going to hold out for a few months as I have a strong feeling that Vauxhall will add an extra colour or two in the next few months. That Mandarin Orange is more like my sort of colour, bright and in keeping with the nature of the car :)
 

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mud4fun said:
LimeyUK said:
The issue I have with 20k on a VXR is the fact that you can get a better new Merc/BMW/Audi for that price.
Uh? what BMW, Merc or Audi can you get brand new with the same spec and performance for £20K?

My friend has a One Series (in fact several of my work colleagues have them too) and the quick ones to rival a VXR are £30K+ and I'm pretty sure the Audi and Merc equivalents are also £30K+ by the time you've added all the options on that the VXR has such as the bling alloys, leather racing seats, performance packs etc. The Honda Type R is also about £30K now I believe too?

Other than the Fiesta ST there is nothing much about with equal performance at the price of the Corsa VXR unless you consider a French/Italian car which I won't. I also find the Germanic cars to be utterly boring to look at, not as reliable as they would have you believe and are simply not worth the premium for me. I like a vehicle to have some personality and character which is why I chose a Corsa E in the first place instead of a Polo or a Fabia. I test drove a Fiesta and didn't like that at all. I also opted for a new Corsa over a second hand One Series or Golf because I wanted a new car. The same applies to the reasoning behind the VXR. I have grown to like the Corsa E very much and I just want a faster version. :)

Hendy - yeah, very tempted with 2nd hand berg but as you say the interior is now dated compared to the E so I guess I'm sort of stuck with getting a new one. I think I'm going to hold out for a few months as I have a strong feeling that Vauxhall will add an extra colour or two in the next few months. That Mandarin Orange is more like my sort of colour, bright and in keeping with the nature of the car :)
Yeah if you hang about I'm sure you might even be able to get a pre reg one at a good price, lots of the local large Vauxhall dealers round my way used to regularly have cracking prices on pre reg D VXRs, I reckon the E will be the same as in this day and age of cheap to run diesels nobody wants a larger petrol Turbo car and its associated "expensive" running costs so Vauxhall struggle to shift them and give them to dealers at good prices. I was very nearly tempted to buy one back in 2011 due to how good a price they were but I had the sense to avoid it as I KNOW for a fact owning something as quick as that I wouldnt be here, that's why I never buy high performance cars, I am sensible enough to know I'd kill myself in one, I just couldn't not have a car with that sort of power and not use it. :lol:

It's it still the same basic block as the D VXR engine? As they had a reputation for melting a piston with any sort of tuning beyond the factory tune because they were already tweaked as much as reliably able to.
 

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Yes same engine. No real concerns about melting pistons as that was due to the stock injectors being too small to supply sufficient fuel at very high rpm over sustained periods. (mainly on re-mapped engines too!)

I prefer using the torque in the mid range with appropriate gears for rapid progress rather than keeping an engine at the redline so can't see it being a problem for me.

I can probably count on one hand the number of times I've taken Dafnys 1.4T over 4K rpm in 8K miles. Just don't need to as bags of torque in mid range. VXR is same, loads of torque between 2000-4500rpm so keeping in lower gear and redlining is not really necessary on public roads?
 

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Yeah, I read that the other day. I joined VXRonline last week :)
 

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Well I still haven't decided on whether to order a VXR. Decision made worse by having been given a drive in a Japanese grey import slightly modified (240hp) Honda Civic Type R yesterday. It was the previous generation normally aspirated version not the brand new turbo version. Throttle response was much better than the VXR and it felt far quicker too. Mind you my friends car is stripped out and has sports exhaust etc so it feels and sounds like a race car (he uses it alot for track days). A very entertaining and impressive car and made the VXR seem just a little mundane!
 

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mud4fun said:
Well I still haven't decided on whether to order a VXR. Decision made worse by having been given a drive in a Japanese grey import slightly modified (240hp) Honda Civic Type R yesterday. It was the previous generation normally aspirated version not the brand new turbo version. Throttle response was much better than the VXR and it felt far quicker too. Mind you my friends car is stripped out and has sports exhaust etc so it feels and sounds like a race car (he uses it alot for track days). A very entertaining and impressive car and made the VXR seem just a little mundane!
But would that Honda feel the same with everything in it that should be, plus a family too?
 

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Yes true but the VXR wouldn't be used as a family car. Just a fun car for me, the occasional run to work plus track days with my friends etc. So actually part of the reason I'm put off the VXR is that it is too comfortable, far too much like my LE and not extreme or different enough from a stock Corsa considering its premium price.

I've currently narrowed my choice to these new cars:

1) Mazda MX5 Sport with 170hp for £22K and that only weighs 1070Kg. Stunning good looks, great performance but only a two seater. As quick as a VXR.

2) Kia pro 'ceed GT 200hp, also £22K but weighs a hefty 1400Kg. Well equipped, spacious, good build quality and quick but a bit boring to look at. Almost as quick as a VXR.

3) Corsa VXR, 202hp, including performance pack it comes to £22K, also quite heavy at 1270Kg but does at least have room for the kids. Too similar in looks to the standard Corsa LE.
 

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My brother has a 62 plate 2.0l MX-5 convertible and it's really fast yet sticks to the road like glue! It's an awesome car for a 'big boy's toy!
 

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My brother has a 62 plate 2.0l MX-5 convertible and it's really fast yet sticks to the road like glue! It's an awesome car for a 'big boy's toy!
Thanks, that what I thought and quite distinctive in looks too :)

I think VX have made a mistake with the VXR, it is simply not different enough from the LE's. It is a great car (as I know because it is not that different from my LE) but I feel that a Vauxhall Racing model needs to feel well, er, a bit more racey? The premium price would suggest it needs far more signficant differentiation of the VXR from its lesser siblings. The new Civic Type R is really in your face and screams about its sporting credentials and looks signficantly different to lesser Civics. Sadly 30K is out of my budget.

I like the MX-5 because it is a unique car, nothing on the road that really looks that similar to it. It evokes memories of MGB's and Triumph Spitfires that my friends and I used to mess around with when we were teenagers.
 
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