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Picked up new 1.0t 3 door LE last night after multiple queries and discussions with dealer. I originally ordered a silver 1.0t Energy in the belief that it came with the trip computer. Thanks for all your discussions regarding this - especially Leachie - it was your comments and photos that made me aware that my car would not have this and your posts have been very helpful. Luckily I was using a very good dealer who agreed to put my ordered car into their stock and me to pick another. Just lost the heated seats etc. Fuel consumption is more important to me as I do a fairly high mileage and use the computer constantly. Dealer was not aware that the trip computer has been removed from Excite to Energy. Had discussions with Vauxhall and they don't seem aware either. They are still saying the Energies have it when clearly they don't. I think it's also been dropped from Designs and Sting R's as well.

Over the last day and approx 80 miles it is registering an average of about 53 mpg which is about the same as my Corsa D 1.7 diesel did. Mostly on smallish twisty roads and some in town. Probably about 6 or 7 miles dual carriageway in this, very little. From experience this will really be about 50 mpg. Have filled up tonight so well see what it really does soon. Very difficult to fill the tank right up though!

I have to say this engine is remarkably smooth and eager. It hasn't quite got the grunt of the 125 bhp 1.7 diesel but not far off. It feels more like the V6 Ford Cougar engine I had before the Corsa D. Not quite the top end power though obviously but much better mpg and it 'hums' like the V6 did.
 

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Picked up new 1.0t 3 door LE last night after multiple queries and discussions with dealer. I originally ordered a silver 1.0t Energy in the belief that it came with the trip computer. Thanks for all your discussions regarding this - especially Leachie - it was your comments and photos that made me aware that my car would not have this and your posts have been very helpful. Luckily I was using a very good dealer who agreed to put my ordered car into their stock and me to pick another. Just lost the heated seats etc. Fuel consumption is more important to me as I do a fairly high mileage and use the computer constantly. Dealer was not aware that the trip computer has been removed from Excite to Energy. Had discussions with Vauxhall and they don't seem aware either. They are still saying the Energies have it when clearly they don't. I think it's also been dropped from Designs and Sting R's as well.

Over the last day and approx 80 miles it is registering an average of about 53 mpg which is about the same as my Corsa D 1.7 diesel did. Mostly on smallish twisty roads and some in town. Probably about 6 or 7 miles dual carriageway in this, very little. From experience this will really be about 50 mpg. Have filled up tonight so well see what it really does soon. Very difficult to fill the tank right up though!

I have to say this engine is remarkably smooth and eager. It hasn't quite got the grunt of the 125 bhp 1.7 diesel but not far off. It feels more like the V6 Ford Cougar engine I had before the Corsa D. Not quite the top end power though obviously but much better mpg and it 'hums' like the V6 did.
Hi and welcome,
I have a 1.4 Energy and was surprised that it didn't come with trip computer, just hope that there is some way to access it!
 

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Welcome Steve! I'm glad my posts helped you. This forum helped me a great deal too. I started looking at the Corsa back in Feb and ordered in August. By the time I decided they had changed Excite to Energy and added heated door mirrors (that I needed). I did so much research on here to make my choice. At first I found it hard without the mftc but I'm getting used to it now. They updated the speedo on MY16 AND added a digital speedo that is now not needed, lol!

I believe that other features can be added via Tech2 but haven't looked into it yet.
 

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You do have a trip computer in the Energy, but you don't have an MFTC.

That is why Vauxhall would have said they were unaware of the Energy not having a Trip Computer.
 

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Welcome Steve! I'm glad my posts helped you. This forum helped me a great deal too. I started looking at the Corsa back in Feb and ordered in August. By the time I decided they had changed Excite to Energy and added heated door mirrors (that I needed). I did so much research on here to make my choice. At first I found it hard without the mftc but I'm getting used to it now. They updated the speedo on MY16 AND added a digital speedo that is now not needed, lol!

I believe that other features can be added via Tech2 but haven't looked into it yet.
When I first notified dealer they contacted factory as they had a description of the changes from Excite to Energy. In the notification it states that the only differences are heated mirrors added, a change in seat trim and a £25 increase in price. Therefore there should be no others. I then asked dealer to contact factory to ask whether my ordered car would have mpg displays or not. Factory staff are not helpful and said they did not know but car would come with whatever dash was fitted, no way of changing it. Also it was too late to change order for different model. Dealer then contacted Vauxhall UK. They replied by email (which I saw) to say that all Energys, Designs, LEs, SRIs, VX lines, and SEs had instant and average MPG outputs on trip computer as long as intellilink is fitted. Not Sting or Sting R though. As my car by then was only 10 days or so from delivery dealer suggested we just wait and see. Car came in showing same display as yours. Even then the sales manager was told he was not looking correctly and that he needed to drive the car for readings to all appear. Tried this, no difference. Next step was to try Tech 2. Technician agreed to try to see if settings could be switched on. Two problems. First he said he needed an access code from Vauxhall. Salesman called Vauxhall again but they couldn't help as they believed display was already outputting MPG readings. Secondly, when the Tech 2 was linked up it flashes up a warning that no changes or adjustments must be made to the settings. Dealer wasn't prepared to risk what the consequences might be of taking this further.
I had to decide then to either take car as it was or swap for another. I didn't want to lose the mftc so chose to swap. I had picked silver as it's the easiest colour to keep. I like the carbon flash I've got now better but I know how difficult black is with scratches showing. Also black roof of LE is wasted really. Also I had specified climate control which this one hasn't and had spare wheel option. LE cannot have this due to side skirts. However, dealer has given me a spare wheel and tools instead of glue kit. I will just have to get a small trolley jack to keep in car. Don't want glue kit, waste of time! Heated seats and steering wheel would have been nice but I'm not bothered. Other thing is sight and light pack. Strange, but I prefer not to have that. Last cords had it. Lights not too bad apart from they would switch off if foggy but wipers were rubbish went fast sometimes when little rain and sometimes slow when quite wet. Now I've got a proper variable intermittent back and these wipers are first class. Also I found the auto dipping rear view mirror did not dip much. The manual on is much better. Probably fine for others though.
Dealer gave me an excellent deal when switching cars as I think he was somewhat sympathetic. LE is a lot more but by the time the extras were deducted and he gave me a decent discount on the difference it didn't cost all that much. Drives MUCH better than the corsa D though and much better looking.
I hope you can get your display to show MPG etc. I'm not that confident that a main dealer will be able to do it though for the reasons stated. If it is possible I think you may have to go to a specialist - unless Vauxhall decide it is a genuine error and issue instructions to dealers.
On another topic I picked 1.0t after dealers advices. Was told I do not drive on fast enough roads to warrant the 1.4t and that it might not be economical as over the 25 miles each way to work each day for 20 miles of it I'm only doing 30-50 mph. In my diesel I rarely got into 5th or 6th gear as driving under about 2000 revs ruined the mpg (contrary to popular belief). Most people think the lower the revs the better, but this is not so, especially with a turbo. My last car did 74 mph at 2000 revs so really 6th gear was only good for the motorway speed limit and above. Over geared really. I got best mpg when in 4th gear about 45 - 50 mph (about 60 mpg). In 6th gear mpg dropped to about 44 which is poor for a diesel. Very quick though. This one does about 52 mph at 2000 revs in 6th so will be much better at coping with small twisty roads I think. 3000 revs is nearly 80mph so be fine for motorway use, probably not as economical as the 1.4t as those speeds though I guess. I have to say though, the 1.0t is surprisingly not short of Torque, pulls fairly hard from just over tick over with no buffering like I would have in the diesel.
 

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LeachiE said:
Welcome Steve! I'm glad my posts helped you. This forum helped me a great deal too. I started looking at the Corsa back in Feb and ordered in August. By the time I decided they had changed Excite to Energy and added heated door mirrors (that I needed). I did so much research on here to make my choice. At first I found it hard without the mftc but I'm getting used to it now. They updated the speedo on MY16 AND added a digital speedo that is now not needed, lol!

I believe that other features can be added via Tech2 but haven't looked into it yet.
When I first notified dealer they contacted factory as they had a description of the changes from Excite to Energy. In the notification it states that the only differences are heated mirrors added, a change in seat trim and a £25 increase in price. Therefore there should be no others. I then asked dealer to contact factory to ask whether my ordered car would have mpg displays or not. Factory staff are not helpful and said they did not know but car would come with whatever dash was fitted, no way of changing it. Also it was too late to change order for different model. Dealer then contacted Vauxhall UK. They replied by email (which I saw) to say that all Energys, Designs, LEs, SRIs, VX lines, and SEs had instant and average MPG outputs on trip computer as long as intellilink is fitted. Not Sting or Sting R though. As my car by then was only 10 days or so from delivery dealer suggested we just wait and see. Car came in showing same display as yours. Even then the sales manager was told he was not looking correctly and that he needed to drive the car for readings to all appear. Tried this, no difference. Next step was to try Tech 2. Technician agreed to try to see if settings could be switched on. Two problems. First he said he needed an access code from Vauxhall. Salesman called Vauxhall again but they couldn't help as they believed display was already outputting MPG readings. Secondly, when the Tech 2 was linked up it flashes up a warning that no changes or adjustments must be made to the settings. Dealer wasn't prepared to risk what the consequences might be of taking this further.
I had to decide then to either take car as it was or swap for another. I didn't want to lose the mftc so chose to swap. I had picked silver as it's the easiest colour to keep. I like the carbon flash I've got now better but I know how difficult black is with scratches showing. Also black roof of LE is wasted really. Also I had specified climate control which this one hasn't and had spare wheel option. LE cannot have this due to side skirts. However, dealer has given me a spare wheel and tools instead of glue kit. I will just have to get a small trolley jack to keep in car. Don't want glue kit, waste of time! Heated seats and steering wheel would have been nice but I'm not bothered. Other thing is sight and light pack. Strange, but I prefer not to have that. Last cords had it. Lights not too bad apart from they would switch off if foggy but wipers were rubbish went fast sometimes when little rain and sometimes slow when quite wet. Now I've got a proper variable intermittent back and these wipers are first class. Also I found the auto dipping rear view mirror did not dip much. The manual on is much better. Probably fine for others though.
Dealer gave me an excellent deal when switching cars as I think he was somewhat sympathetic. LE is a lot more but by the time the extras were deducted and he gave me a decent discount on the difference it didn't cost all that much. Drives MUCH better than the corsa D though and much better looking.
I hope you can get your display to show MPG etc. I'm not that confident that a main dealer will be able to do it though for the reasons stated. If it is possible I think you may have to go to a specialist - unless Vauxhall decide it is a genuine error and issue instructions to dealers.
On another topic I picked 1.0t after dealers advices. Was told I do not drive on fast enough roads to warrant the 1.4t and that it might not be economical as over the 25 miles each way to work each day for 20 miles of it I'm only doing 30-50 mph. In my diesel I rarely got into 5th or 6th gear as driving under about 2000 revs ruined the mpg (contrary to popular belief). Most people think the lower the revs the better, but this is not so, especially with a turbo. My last car did 74 mph at 2000 revs so really 6th gear was only good for the motorway speed limit and above. Over geared really. I got best mpg when in 4th gear about 45 - 50 mph (about 60 mpg). In 6th gear mpg dropped to about 44 which is poor for a diesel. Very quick though. This one does about 52 mph at 2000 revs in 6th so will be much better at coping with small twisty roads I think. 3000 revs is nearly 80mph so be fine for motorway use, probably not as economical as the 1.4t as those speeds though I guess. I have to say though, the 1.0t is surprisingly not short of Torque, pulls fairly hard from just over tick over with no buffering like I would have in the diesel.
Get in touch with VX yourself, referencing that email.
 

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Not sure why VX said that all cars with Intellilink should have the mftc as both are totally different screens! Half the time they give a rubbish answer and don't realise that some of their customers have done research and likely know more than the dealers about the cars. Certainly true in my case!

Also, I live on the Isle of Wight and we have no motorways. I have the 1.4T and have started driving a route to work on faster roads to try and improve mpg. I was obsessed with the mpg reading in my last car. So far on my second full tank I have got to 330 miles and am still on the last white bar. I suspect it will turn red this morning.
 

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If you look at corsa specs you can opt for CD player instead of intellilink. If you do this and the car is a 1.2 or 1.4 (non turbo) model display will change to the basic sting display unless you also take another option - I think one of the parking ones, which opts the car back into the higher display. I think this is why they said that. Still doesn't explain the difference from 2015 to 2016 models though when none of this is in the official list of changes.
 

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. Still doesn't explain the difference from 2015 to 2016 models though when none of this is in the official list of changes.
They should never have been fitted with MFTC.

All original documentation back in January only listed MFTC on LE, SE, SRi and SRi-vxline.

It looks like they cocked up by fitting it to the Excite and they have rectified it on the energy.

I was certainly P'd off when I found it was available on a cheaper model because it was the main feature I wanted and would not buy a car without one so I was faced with choice between LE, SRi or SE at the time. My dealer checked with VX back in January and they confirmed only available on the trims listed.

I personally think it should be fitted by law to all vehicles as it really helps driving more economically. :)
 

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Strange that they don't as I think Ford fit it to fiesta on all but the most basic model and they are usually in competition. Lots of better spec on fiesta but engine felt less refined and only 5 speed gearbox.
 

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I used to have a Fiesta (a long time ago - it was a G reg 1990 model, the same as the one I learnt to drive in! I have sat in the newer ones at the car show back in the summer, but I didn't like the dash. I have had a Focus and Escort too and once when I had a courtesy car I had to ask for a different one as I couldn't reach the pedals! :oops:
 

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Your mpg has improved a bit. Don't know how you find it but tank is very hard to fill on this car. Had 2 clicks on pump then squeezed another 7 litres in very slowly. Last car (corsair D) wasn't as slow as this. Have nd done 110 miles and no 'blocks' have gone down on fuel gauge. Means it will take some time to be sure of mpg I think. Very difficult to know how full you have topped up tank to.
 

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Yes, it has! Not as much as I thought it had though. I just fill her up until the pump clicks off, like I always have done. The most miles I got our of a full tank in my previous car (Ibiza 1.2TSI) was 373. I got 349.4 out of the second full tank, and I expect it will improve over time since I am only up to just over 700 miles. The Corsa has taken some getting used to as I had the Ibiza for over 4 years. I'm getting there now though!
 

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LeachiE said:
Welcome Steve! I'm glad my posts helped you. This forum helped me a great deal too. I started looking at the Corsa back in Feb and ordered in August. By the time I decided they had changed Excite to Energy and added heated door mirrors (that I needed). I did so much research on here to make my choice. At first I found it hard without the mftc but I'm getting used to it now. They updated the speedo on MY16 AND added a digital speedo that is now not needed, lol!

I believe that other features can be added via Tech2 but haven't looked into it yet.
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Bit of further information on mftc. Although I switched cars so this doesn't affect me I asked for dealer to keep me informed of what has happened with my16/Energy models. He wasn't sure whether the loss of mpg was intended by Vauxhall or a mistake. Vauxhall have just let dealer know that they are "considering" instructing dealers how to add mpg readings to Energy's (and I presume Designs as display appears to be similar). Dealer has taken that to mean that removal was a mistake. Whether that is the case or not if true it looks like Energy Displays are capable of being activated to show all the mpg settings.
Worth waiting a bit and asking your dealer I think. Hope it works out for you so you can get the full readings.
 

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LeachiE said:
Welcome Steve! I'm glad my posts helped you. This forum helped me a great deal too. I started looking at the Corsa back in Feb and ordered in August. By the time I decided they had changed Excite to Energy and added heated door mirrors (that I needed). I did so much research on here to make my choice. At first I found it hard without the mftc but I'm getting used to it now. They updated the speedo on MY16 AND added a digital speedo that is now not needed, lol!

I believe that other features can be added via Tech2 but haven't looked into it yet.
Hi
Bit of further information on mftc. Although I switched cars so this doesn't affect me I asked for dealer to keep me informed of what has happened with my16/Energy models. He wasn't sure whether the loss of mpg was intended by Vauxhall or a mistake. Vauxhall have just let dealer know that they are "considering" instructing dealers how to add mpg readings to Energy's (and I presume Designs as display appears to be similar). Dealer has taken that to mean that removal was a mistake. Whether that is the case or not if true it looks like Energy Displays are capable of being activated to show all the mpg settings.
Worth waiting a bit and asking your dealer I think. Hope it works out for you so you can get the full readings.
That's good new if it happens.
 

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LeachiE said:
Welcome Steve! I'm glad my posts helped you. This forum helped me a great deal too. I started looking at the Corsa back in Feb and ordered in August. By the time I decided they had changed Excite to Energy and added heated door mirrors (that I needed). I did so much research on here to make my choice. At first I found it hard without the mftc but I'm getting used to it now. They updated the speedo on MY16 AND added a digital speedo that is now not needed, lol!

I believe that other features can be added via Tech2 but haven't looked into it yet.
Hi
Bit of further information on mftc. Although I switched cars so this doesn't affect me I asked for dealer to keep me informed of what has happened with my16/Energy models. He wasn't sure whether the loss of mpg was intended by Vauxhall or a mistake. Vauxhall have just let dealer know that they are "considering" instructing dealers how to add mpg readings to Energy's (and I presume Designs as display appears to be similar). Dealer has taken that to mean that removal was a mistake. Whether that is the case or not if true it looks like Energy Displays are capable of being activated to show all the mpg settings.
Worth waiting a bit and asking your dealer I think. Hope it works out for you so you can get the full readings.
Thank you! This is very encouraging! I have the same screen, so hopefully it can be done. I might have to speak to my dealer about it. Although he had no idea about the new passenger visor mirrors or the fact that my Energy had the digital speedo either!
 

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I don't think it was ever intended to be in such models - it's more likely to be a case of them putting the wrong one in the 2015 models.
 
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