[jamescmartin13]

Which one would you go for?

Still torn between the sporty LE 1l 3cy 115bhp spec

Or the comfortable more feature packed SE 1.4T?

I'm just so confused though because Vauxhall and my dealership keep saying how the 1lT 3cy 115hp is the top of the range engine, the most powerful, fastest etc, quickest accelerating etc but yeah most people opt for the 1.4T? Is this just because it's cheaper or is it because it's a truly better engine?

 

[SylvE]

The 1.0T is better around town, whereas the 1.4T is better on motorways - mud4fun will be along soon I expect - I'm sure he will explain it in much more detail than I can! Personally I would go with the SE as I think the body kit on the LE may make getting onto my steep driveway a bit difficult! I love the look of the 3dr LE but 3 door isn't practical!

 

[LimeyUK]

Which one would you go for?

Still torn between the sporty LE 1l 3cy 115bhp spec

Or the comfortable more feature packed SE 1.4T?

I'm just so confused though because Vauxhall and my dealership keep saying how the 1lT 3cy 115hp is the top of the range engine, the most powerful, fastest etc, quickest accelerating etc but yeah most people opt for the 1.4T? Is this just because it's cheaper or is it because it's a truly better engine?

For me, it was because the 1.0T is new and an extra £1000 - money that you wouldn't be able to recoup like you could with most diesels - and its not that much more economical.

It also requires much higher revs to fulfill its specified PS, mud4fun will explain more on this I'm sure :lol:

As for LE vs SE, just have to decide whether you want the sports body kit, or extra gadgets. The Corsa E looks just as good without a bodykit as it does with one. Don't let the bodykits looks sway you away from gadgetry if it is gadgets that you want :lol:

 

[hendry]

Id always - if I wanted a car with gadgets AND bodykit - but couldn't just buy one with both, always buy the car with gadgets as its easier and cheaper in my experience to add a bodykit to a car than it is to add the gadgets at a later date, they require sometimes a lot of additional parts, stripping interiors,rewiring and so on.

 

[LimeyUK]

Id always - if I wanted a car with gadgets AND bodykit - but couldn't just buy one with both, always buy the car with gadgets as its easier and cheaper in my experience to add a bodykit to a car than it is to add the gadgets at a later date, they require sometimes a lot of additional parts, stripping interiors,rewiring and so on.

You can add the VXR styling bodykit for £1500

 

[mud4fun]

Most of the toys on the SE are available as factory cost options on the LE so you can have the best of both worlds from the factory whereas the key features of the LE are not available on the SE. The cost to buy, paint and fit them (lower suspension, 17" wheels, 215 tyres, tinting, bodykit, two tone paint etc) would end up costing way more than the fully toyed up LE anyway.

You would also have to declare the mods to the SE to the insurance company as it would be considered modified whereas the toyed up LE would be factory stock.

The bodykit on its own would look silly on an otherwise stock SE as the 195 tyres won't fill the arches so the side skirts will look too pronounced and the car will sit 1" taller than an LE so won't 'work' in terms of looks IMHO. You would need the lower suspension and bigger wheels/tyres to pull it off. Just my opinion though!

 

[hendry]

Most of the toys on the SE are available as factory cost options on the LE so you can have the best of both worlds from the factory whereas the key features of the LE are not available on the SE. The cost to buy, paint and fit them (lower suspension, 17" wheels, 215 tyres, tinting, bodykit, two tone paint etc) would end up costing way more than the fully toyed up LE anyway.

You would also have to declare the mods to the SE to the insurance company as it would be considered modified whereas the toyed up LE would be factory stock.

The bodykit on its own would look silly on an otherwise stock SE as the 195 tyres won't fill the arches so the side skirts will look too pronounced and the car will sit 1" taller than an LE so won't 'work' in terms of looks IMHO. You would need the lower suspension and bigger wheels/tyres to pull it off. Just my opinion though!

If you hadnt already realised from our previous discussions,spec is my thing, I like toys, I'm not lazy, I just A. Generally want the car with all the things that that model can have, I'm the sort of person who would have bought an Escort Ghia than an Escort Popular Plus because the switch blanks would bug me. B. A car is a means of convenient travel, yes? If you wanted no frills travel you'd use a pushbike or buy a bus pass so its as well being convenient as possible, so if that means the car switches its lights on and off when it gets light/dark, the wipers speed up and down by themselves when it's raining and the cruise control can keep the speed at a set amount so I don't need to keep my foot on the pedal and can just sit and relax listening to tunes in the Bluetooth, digital or USB, then that's what I'll do.

My point was based on this, I had an Astra Design, half leather interior, sight and light, cruise, indirect night lighting, rear electric windows, I wanted an SRi XP for the bodykit, 18" alloys etc but basic inside, now stripping the interior to wire and fit these parts, removing seats, buying the parts, etc or swapping a set of wheels, bonding on some skirts and spoilers, plus the fact they are considerably cheaper to buy than seats and sensors, ECUs, connection boxes etc so I bought the car with toys and elected to fit the wheels and kit later, I'd see other folk buy the sporty car and strip the car to pieces and spend a fortune buying stuff from Designs and Elites, its a no brainer, you buy the specced up car and add to it (Es are different because they are so new you can buy them new and spec the exact car you want with factory options etc can't do that with a used car or ones that's no longer made which we will see as the E becomes more common and can be bought used or will be by people who can't afford a new one or when it stops being made - I wouldve bought a 6 month old one and saved even more on the new list price for a practically brand new car if I couldve, I suspect a lot of folk will do this, you can't take your pick of a factory build with your own specific options at that point

 

[mud4fun]

Hehe, Hendry I think you got your threads mixed up. My comment above was in relation to the OP James being torn between either a new sporty LE or new toyed up SE. I was merely pointing out you could achieve best of both from the factory (for a premium). Sorry, it was not aimed at you or even with reference to our separate discussion

 

[mud4fun]

Hendry, I would also choose the Escort Ghia (and did as a company car!)

The problem with some of these gadgets is that people become so reliant on them that they lose the ability to think or react for themselves.

The auto headlights is a classic example. They do not reliably work when you have oncoming pedestrians or even cyclists so you end up blinding people which is thoughtless and inconsiderate or you have to manually turn them off which means there is no point having them. In my experience people get too dependant on the gadgets and struggle to react fast enough when the gadget no longer works.

Same for auto wipers. I've had them on many of my company cars and they never work as reliably as manual control. The road sign recognition is also not accurate so is largely pointless.

As for reversing camera's and parking sensors, if you need those to park a tiny Corsa then you should not be driving. At aged 18 I could park a 7.5 ton truck (my dads!) in spaces that some people seem to struggle to park a Corsa these days. Giving them reversing cameras is not the answer, they should learn to judge distances properly or take the bus to save lives. If they can't judge a couple of feet while parking they are going to really struggle to judge distance and speeds on a motorway!! ;-)